From: Realman <Rman@login.net> Newsgroups: alt.sex.stories Subject: The ultimate revenge (mm,nc,magic,tg,femdom) Date: 12 Jun 1996 23:40:04 GMT 1 THE ULTIMATE REVENGE (mm, nc, magic, tg, femdom) By: Realman This story is intended for adults above the age of 18. If you are not 18 years or older, please do not read any further. Jack woke up nude and strapped on a bed in some kind of clinic and was asking himself why he was there and who brought him here. The door opened and a very good looking woman came by the bed. "Who are you and why I am naked and strapped on that bed?" asked Jack. "My name is Brenda and I run an agency that specializes in receiving complaints of women sexually harassed by men." "That doesn't explain why I am here!" "Oh yes, it does. We received over ten complaints about your behavior. You harassed eight of them and raped the two others. We have proof of these acts." "These hysterical women all enjoyed being crushed by me. Sometimes they deserved a little male authority just to remind them who's the boss!" "Obviously, they didn't share your opinion and they told me you must pay for the hell you made them live." "But, you know, I am a young man and I love women. Sometime, I can't control myself. I need to have them for me... please don't hurt me." "Our agency never hurt anybody...at least not physically. You're a tough case and we decided that you deserve strong punishment. We will change your behavior with a special serum specially designed for pigs like you. Your problem is about power and control so we chose a serum that is design to make you loose these features." She took out a vial and a syringe from a drawer and fill up the syringe. Then she look at Jack and told him: "I will now inject you with the ultimate revenge serum. Please stand still and show me your cock. You will feel this serum in your cock as if it was on fire, but you will take it as a man." "What is it and what it will do?" asked Jack. "You're a little bit too curious and you will know soon enough. With that drug, you will never bother any girls again and you might feel a lot less in control of yourself." "Please don't do that to me. I promise to be nice to you and the others for as long as I live."Jack was now feeling his cock as if it was burning. "It's too late, Jack. The drug is now flowing inside your cock, filling it with a very nasty substance that will soon spread throughout your entire body.I'm just sure everything that will happen to you, you deserve. Let me now explain you some of the things that will happen to you because of this drug. I'm sure you will enjoy this." She threw the empty syringe in the basket. "After the absorption of the drug I just injected you, you'll be strongly attracted only by men. You'll be turned on by them and want to have sex with them. You won't be able to see a man without thinking about his cock, his balls, his sperm. You will dream about them days and nights." "You can't make me gay. I will always love women" Jack said. "Who is talking about love? Your body will urge you to have sex with all men but you will still be free of loving who you want. Each time you'll see a man, your body will scream "sex" and you won't be able to fight this attraction." "You will also be strongly addicted to sperm. You will crave for it all the time and enjoy the taste of it so much. As you are a man, you will soon supply yourself." "What! You expect me to swallow my cum! You're crazy or what!!" "You can't imagine yet how strong this addiction will be. Be sure you will be more than willing making your cock spurt in your mouth. In comparison to what you're about to experiment, addiction to heroin is nothing!" You will find yourself very sexy and the sight of your man's body will arouse you to extreme limit.You will feel unbearable urge jacking off all the time. Your balls will grow rapidly in order to adjust to your body needs.You'll have so heavy balls that it will hang just above knee level.It will be impossible to put them inside your underwear and it will be very difficult for you to walk as these balls will always be in your way.This will be very bothersome. These big balls will urge to empty themselves, so you will experiment continuous cum leaking without erection or stimulation.This leaking will last as long as you will live and the amount of cum you will ejaculate will be about two ounce an hour. Don't worry, your big fat balls will have the special ability to constantly stimulate cum production from your body.They will also command your penis to increase in length and diameter in order to reach 18 inches flacid,matching the size of your balls. They will take total control over your brain, producing some substances that will screw up your brain chemistry.As your brain is now under the control of your balls, it's easy to know what will be your main activity." "Are you telling me I will become some kind of sex monster and will enjoy it?" "The serum is not design to make you enjoy these changes, deep inside yourself, you'll be upset and frustrated at all time." You will soon crave to have all this hot sperm in your ass, so you will insert that special tube in your pee hole and the dildo end in your ass and while you fill yourself with your own cum..You will be so strongly addicted to it,that you will fight not to unplug your butt from your sperm supply, although you will have to in order to empty you bowel once in a while. During that time , you will experiment withdrawal syndrome,screaming and crying all the time, craving for your cum. So you will plug you back as soon as possible. "O.K., I've listen to you enough! Just untie me and we'll forget about all this pervert discussion. Anyway, I don't believe you're able to make me turn out as you say." "We anticipated this reaction and in order to make you believe me, your about to feel very strange tickling and squezzing in your balls, then your cock will start slowly leaking some cum. You won't feel any pleasure from that but it will upset you as it will never stop and the flow of sperm will slowly increase, making you feel really weird." "Ah! ah!, you think you're funny! What a stupid bitch you are.You deserve..." Jack suddenly stop speaking. He looked at Brenda with interrogation marks in his eyes. "Oupps! You start feeling something, don't you?" said Brenda with a smile. Jack was trying to look down at his cock as he soon realised that the tip of his cock was shining wet. He was also feeling as if his balls were slowly and powerfully contacting repeatedly as if they wanted to expel all their content. "I'm sure it's only anxiety that makes a little humidity down my cock. This is weird!" "Maybe you should look at your cock again, it seems like nice hot sperm to me! Before long, you'll be covered with your cum." Jack looked at his cock again and start to panic. "What the hell have you done to me! Stop that now or you will regret it." "How can I regret it? I'm kind of enjoying myself seeing you pig involuntarily loosing all that sperm and not having any more control on your cock and balls! Anyway, this is so funny looking at your wild balls and at your leaking cock!" "How can I loose so much cum!!! Make it stop, stop! STOP!!!!!!!" Jack felt his hot sperm slowly leaking from his flacid cock on his abdomen as the tickling and squeezing in his balls were intensifying. He was furious and violently tried to untie himself. "Please let me go!" "But my little story isn't over yet. Maybe you should listen carefully to me because it is concerning your future.Where was I?Oh yes, I remember...You will be horny forever, sucking furiously every man that you will see.If you unplug yourself for more than 5 minutes, your body will react producing huge amount of female hormones, thus making you a "she-male" 24 hours after you cut off your cum supply. Female hormone production will stop immediatly if you plug yourself back but the effects are cummulative and irreversible. "You bitch is saying that I could turn out a woman. What a hell!" "By the way, I forgot to tell you cum craving will soon start, so I better untie you. Anyway you can't leave because your leg are paralysed." She began to untie Jack. "It's not to soon! So you think I can't leave? Look at me!" He tried to get out of the bed but felt heavily on the floor. "I told you...better listen to me or you might hurt yourself. Don't you begin experiencing a funny craving in your mouth? Isn't the smell of fresh sperm turning you on? Why don't you please yourself Jack? Maybe I should help you." "You dirty bitch think I can't control myself and that I will act as a fag! You make a big mistake and I'll make you suck my dick and I'll fuck you." "That's a bad attitude for such a weak man. I bet you'll never be able to fuck a woman again. This serum is about to make you loose all control over your sex life and you're still insulting me!" She put her finger in Jack's cum on his abdomen then bring it slowly to his mouth. "Mmmm! It look so good for such a hungry mouth as yours." "You think you can make me do anything, I'm not a slave!" " When the crave will kick in, it will strike you as lightning!" After a few moment, Jack suddenly seemed overwhelmed with panic. "Oh my god, what is happening to me! I can't believe it! I must resist this urge." He was staring at the finger, then hungrily suck it, moaning in ecstasy. "There you are. You know where you can have some more, don't you?" Jack felt humiliated and angry as he stared with lust at his leaking cock and his shining abdomen covered with hot sperm. He shyly began wetting a finger with cum, then suck it but the urge to have cum in his mouth seems rapidly to increase. He soon swept his whole hand on his abdomen, getting large amount of cum to his hungry mouth. "I have to stop acting like a fag but this is so good, I can't help myself" "You'll be surprised how much you'll swallow. You'll never have enough to satisfy your crave. Mmmm... enjoying the taste? Never tought you would have been loving your cum so much, dear Jack." "Please make me stop, its so humiliating! Tell me I am about to stop swallowing my cum." "Oh but Jack, this is just the beginning of this. Better get used to it because this serum is so powerfull your urge will increase to extreme lever." "You're such a bitch" said Jack unable to stop licking his own cum wildly. "There are some interesting side effects of the drug: All the sperm you drink will attack your teeths and you will loose them all very soon. It will make you a better cock sucker for all men to enjoy.There will also be a special substance in your saliva that will make the men you suck feel very intense and addicting orgasms. This substance will also make them ejaculate like crazy, draining them dry as you need sperm so much.So, they will be very regular clients and I will recruits new ones.Before long, you will always have a hard dick feeding your hungry mouth."? She looked back at him only to realise his balls already started growing. They were now about twice their original size. "Look at these marvelous balls! It seems it will be a little tough to drain them dry. Hope you like them big, Jack, because they're growing at an amazing speed!" Breda laughed. Jack has just begun masturbating in order to have more cum. He was screaming with desire, sweating and shaking, desperatly in need for sperm. "After a year of great all men sex, I will make sure at least a man unplug you in order to buttfuck you. At this time,your sperm will contain a subtance that is rapidly absorbed through the intact skin and the man that is buttfucking you will experiment very strong addiction to your ass. This substance will also have very bothering side effects for you. It will delay ejaculation by one minute each time,making you being buttfuck for longer time and it will also increase the diameter of his cock, thus stretching your ass always more and more. He will enjoy getting his cock inside your ass as often as he can.Foreign sperm in your ass will make you feel very intense orgasm that will last about an hour. You'll be screaming in ecstasy, sweating and convulsing all the time.During these orgasms, your arms will be paralysed making you impossible to plug yourself back,so you will feminized yourself at the same time. You will hate the feminizing effects and try to avoid buttfuck, but as you don't have any free will, all men will have absolute control over you making you impossible to fight against them.When the foreign sperm will be absorbed by your body, the orgasm and paralysis will subside but it will strongly stimulate your ass cum craving. You will be able to supply yourself as cum production will increase each time a man ejaculate in your ass. Foreign sperm will also make your anal muscles relax at all time, so cum will always leak from it and the tube will fall out very often as your anus will not contract anymore.It will also strongly intensify your crave for sucking cocks. Soon, you will be so much in heat that you will not be in control of yourself, attacking every men in sight and filling yourself with tremendous amount of sperm. Jack was now fingering his ass at the same time he was stroking his cock. He lubrificate his ass with cum and tried to introduce some inside it. "Poor little Jack! Your ass needs sperm as much as your mouth now! How can you fill yourself both ways! I will soon make you meet some very nice gentlemen who will be more than willing letting you suck their big hard cocks." "Help me somebody!! I can't stand it, I feel so wild!" Jack screamed, getting another load of cum to his mouth. "You're quite a sight! I never tought your balls would have become so big" said Brenda now playing with the special tube intended to make Jack able to fill his ass. "At this stage, even if you don't stroke your meat, your cock will continue dripping cum. Your balls are now large enough to supply continuous flow of sperm. Anyway, your cock is about to go soft." Jack now realized how big were his balls and scrotum. They were as big as grapefruit! His cock was now getting soft and constantly dripping cum, as she said. "These balls are not mine! This is monstruous. I can't live like that. That stupid cock is always loosing sperm. That's crazy! How can I stop that?!" "Your balls are just making sure you have enough sperm to satisfy yourself. You like your sperm so much! A pig like you deserve these heavy balls and a big fat lazy dick so everybody will now see on what your life is centered. There's no way you can hide these marvelous macho jewels now. You'll soon regret being born a man!" "Fuck you, sick bitch!" said Jack crying. Brenda was staring at him, almost laughing: "I love the way your penis is turning out with the special stimulation of your balls. It's getting absolutely enormous but unresponsive to sexual stimulation. What a pathetic cock: huge , always soft, without any signs of arousal and continuously and weakly creaming incredible amount of rich, hot sperm without any sexual pleasure! That's the cock every bastard like you should have." He was trying to suck every little drop of cum leaking from his cock with passion but a large quantity was leaking on his balls and ass as he wasn't able to get il all. There was absolute terror in his eyes as he realised his body was now mostly dick and balls totally out of control. "Your hands will now always urge to play with your big lazy cock and balls, reminding you constantly how huge and unresponsive to stimulation they are. You will also involontarily want to display your lovely male jewels to make sure everybody have a full view over them, including yourself.You will be very soon be unable to speak, as your balls are producing a substance that rapidly destroy the speech center. You will only be able to moan and shout, so nobody will be able to understand what is happening to you. Maybe you should try speaking to me" "mmmhhhnnnnooooooaaaa" Jack tried desperatly to get a word out of his mouth but he was able to produce only a low passionate moan. "That's quite sexy Jack. You'll always seem it heat from now on every single time you'll open your mouth. The harder you'll try, the hornier it will sound. That's a lot nicer than insults! Anyway, the drug will make sure you are constantly producing horny sounds as if you were a wild male beast in heat no matter how aroused you are. There is no way you can fight this and it will make you ashamed of yourself. You'll be screaming your sex urge to your heart content despite of yourself." "aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhooooooooooommmmmmmm" screamed Jack terror in his eyes. "Very nice! You have some hidden talents" said Brenda enjoying herself. "oooooommmmmmmaaahhhhhhhhhhh" screamed Jack as if he was climaxing. No matter how hard he tried to remains silent, he was always involontarily making powerfull climax sounds. He could not believe he was making these erotic sounds. "I almost forgot to tell you that your body will also act as if it was it was in constant heat, thus matching with the wild sexy sounds you make. You'll be caressing your body,sweating, breathing heavily and fast, having muscle spasms all over you. This will make you a permanent advertisement for sex. This will persist even during your sleep and even without any kind of sexual arousement." Jack was now experiencing a faked climax. Although he wasn't experiencing any sexual pleasure, he was acting as if he was having a very powerfull orgasm. He was trapped in a body on which he doesn't have any control and he was upset to look at himself: He was acting like a wild animal, caressing himself with erotic passion and producing heavy climax sound. "Hope you're enjoying your man's body. You look so hot, you're almost arousing me! Sorry your balls are now denying you any true sexual satisfaction as this part of your brain is now strongly inhibited. " The faked climax was varying in intensity but was never completely subsiding. Jack was still hungrily eating all his cum dripping from his huge soft cock. The door bell rang. "It should be the guys. You'll soon be amazed how savagely you will sexually agress them. There, play with that tube during the time I am answering the door." Jack rapidly introduce the tube inside his huge shaft that was still growing. As the tube filled itself with cum, he introduced the dildo end in his ass. He heard some men talking and they were approaching. As soon as they were in the room, Jack began to salivate in anticipation moaning with desire. The first one approched Jack and as soon as he was close enough of him, Jack ripped his pants and start sucking furiously the man. The man soon was screaming with pleasure as he was beeing vaccumed by Jack. He was soon dropping his huge load inside Jack's mouth. He felt an incredible, long lasting orgasm. After that, he said, trying to catch his breath. " Boy, this man is wild! I've never been suck like that in my hole life! " Brenda was now looking at the scene: The second man was approching Jack. "You are already quite pathetic, Jack but when you will have complete the "she-male process", you'll look like a cheap hore with huge breast, big butt, big lips. Your balls will gradually stop producing cum, thus making you crave for all men to buttfuck you because your ass will need huge amount of sperm. Your big cock and balls will gradually shrink back to normal size after complete transformation. As a "she-male", you will be completely insatiable with desire of cum in ass and mouth and you will have a very special feature that you will soon experiment! You'll have a very functional uterus and ovaries. During your transformation, your balls will also connect themselves directly with your new uterus, thus making you ejaculate only inside yourself. When you will ovulate, the proper hormonal stimulation will make your cock rock hard and you will feel an unbearable urge to masturbate. At the same time, you will involontarily start rocking your pelvis, caressing your balls and tits and moan loudly untill eggs fertilization process is over. As you will bring yourself to climax, you will ejaculate sperm repeatedly on the emerging eggs untill multiple pregnancy occurs. All this process will make your very frustrated and angry as you'll never want to be pregnant but you will be unable to fight it .As the cycle will repeat itself every 10 months till menauposis, you'll hate the way your body controls your life. If you try to fight the urge of masturbating when you ovulate, knowing what will happen, your body will have the ability to slowly bring itself to climax again and again, producing repeated involontary ejaculation, making sure you spread your eggs with large amount of hot, thick sperm. As your uterus will not have any external connection, you won't be able to interrupt your pregnancy and you will deliver your children by cesarian. I will hire a gynecologist who will perfom the interventions. I will sell all your children as you will be only concerned servicing men and having their cum inside your body at all time. After menoposis, you will be all male again, with cum leaking, big balls and cum craving the very same way you were before your she-male tranformation. During all your life, you will be permanently frustrated not having any control of what is happening to you. Your body and other men will have absolute control over yourself and even if you don't want all this to happen, you will be totally helpless.You will be sad and angry despite your body will overwhelm with lust and ecstasy. Your brain will forbid you to mutilate or kill yourself at any time during your life making it a permanent hell." As she finished telling him the effects of the drug, the second man was ejaculating his big load inside Jack's mouth, almost convulsing in pleasure. Jack was too much concentrated on his sucking to listen to Brenda anymore. He felt the paralysis in his legs subside but he didn't want to leave anymore as there were such attractive young men in the room, ready to give him their load. He felt his teeth loosen, then a few ones felt, making his mouth look weird. he was going from man to man, making them addicted to his mouth as much that he was addicted to their cocks. The magic power of the drug was working exactly as Brenda had told him. Jack was now slaved to cocks, swallowing as much cum as he could. The men kept coming back as they experienced pure ecstasy as they were sucked by Jack. After about a year, a new man came to the clinic. He looked at Jack's butt and unplug the tube that was filling him with sperm. The reaction was immediate. Jack was furious and kicked the man with his legs. Jack was mad trying to replug himself but the man forbid him to do so keeping the tube end in his hand. With his other end, he grab some kind of small enema and introduced the nozzle into Jack's ass. Jack thought he was being replugged but the man said. "The substance I just put in your ass will soon be activated by your sperm. The combination will make you very submissive as well as craving to be buttfuck by me. Your nice little ass will rapidly loosen as the drug will reach it's full potency and all the sperm you've got inside your gut will flow out, thus making your crave for me to replace your supply. The drug will also rapidly stop cum leaking from your cock, so you'll be unable to plug you back." Jack felt suddenly very relax, lying on his back, he gently rub his ass that soon began to leak some of his precious cum. It seems that his anus was now unable to contract and he was loosing all his cum. He tried to replug himself but the tube wasn't dripping anymore. He was now helpless as his ass urged him to fill himself. The man came back and push his cock inside Jack's ass. He vigorously buttfuck Jack who was crying in need of sperm. Finally, the man spurted his load in Jack's ass. Jack was now feeling a tremendous orgasm though his body as the man left the room. Jack was now unable to supply himself with cum, even when he tried masturbating, his cock wasn't responding. He began experiencing some signs of feminisation. His breast was growing huge, his hips were enlarging, his voice changed, his beard disappeared, his mouth and lips were sexier. He felt his balls and cock slowly shrinking to their normal size. After 2 or 3 days, Jack was a complete she-male craving for cum in ass and mouth. The young men came back now filling him both ways for his greatest satisfaction. After a few weeks of that treatment, he began feeling weird during his sleep. He was now caressing his balls and tits and rocking his pelvis all the time. His cock grew hard to full attention. He was asking himself what was going on. He felt a sudden urge to stroke his cock. As he did so, he felt wave of intense pleasure crossing all his body. When he reached climax, he didn't see any sperm spurting out of his cock although he felt all signs of ejaculation. His cock didn't go soft and he continue to feel the urge to mastubate over and over, reaching climax each time, but his cock always stay dry. After hours of ecstasy, his dick go soft and the urge of masturbating rapidly subsided. He was exhausted and felt asleep. He continued to experience craving for cum and sucked and was buttfucked by lot of men, but after a few weeks, he realised he was pregnant. He could do nothing than bear the child. After 37 weeks of pregnancy, his belly was so big, he tought he will bust. Brenda came and injected him with a substance that make him loose consciousness. He regain consciousness in the recovery room and Brenda told him: "You've got twins baby boys. you won't feel any cum craving for the next 3 days in order to make you recover from the cesarian, then you'll be back in your room, feeling the craving increasing rapidly. It will be life as usual." After 3 days, he was back in his room and he had regular men "visiting" him. Less than 4 weeks after delivery, he was again caressing his balls ,tits and rocking his pelvis. He now knew that if he masturbate, he will be pregnant again. As he didn't want to, he fought the urge to masturbate altough it was very tough. His mind seemed to always focus on his hard cock and his hands were caressing all his body parts making him overwhelm with pleasure. It seems that the pleasure was doing something to his balls. The scrotum was contracting itself as if the ejaculation will soon occur and he was feeling as if he will have an orgasm, despite he didn't touch his cock. He suddenly felt himself reach orgasm as he screamed in ecstasy, feeling contractions in his cock and balls, but again his cock stay dry. He knew he was making himself pregnant but there was no way he can stop the cycle. His cock stayed hard very long and he felt continuous intense orgasms . He was involontarily spurting all his hot sperm inside himself and that was making him frustrated and sad. As his cock got soft, he started crying knowing he was again childbearing. A few days later, Brenda was back in Jack's room. She was looking at Jack. "I just saw the videotape of your ovulation day. So, you tried to fight the urge of masturbating while it was time to do so! I will make sure this will never happen again." She took a filled syringe and empty it inside Jack's butt. "That serum will make sure you will involontarily masturbate each time you need to. It will be absolutely impossible not to comply to your body needs. Your hand will automaticaly reach your cock every time it is erect. As you deserve a little punishment for you behavior, this drug will also make you experiment very strong repulsion to all man's cock you will see. As your cum craving will intensify, you will have to suck cocks and get them in your ass even if it is disgusting to you. Even your own cock will be a source of profond disgust for you. Anyway, you didn't seem to enjoy playing with it. You will try to avoid looking to cocks but the drug also make you stare at them as often as possible. These effects are permanent and you will now have a small sample of the effects of this new drug. Your cock is about to get hard and I think I will enjoy myself looking at you." Jack was feeling he was getting hard and he felt his hand grabbed involontarily his dick and began masturbating despite of himself. At the same time he looked at his cock and found it was the most repulsive thing he ever saw. He can barely stand it but he was not able to look anywhere else. His eyes kept staring at himself masturbating furiously. He screamed in horror to this unbearable view and could not believe he had to live with it for the rest of his life. He soon ejaculate inside himself and his cock got soft again. "Well my dear, see you in a couple of weeks. In the mean time I will install lot of mirror in this room just to make sure you have a full view of yourself and the other men. Of course mirror installator will be naked. Try to enjoy you snack! Remember that the drug forbid you to mutilate or kill yourself, so you're stuck with that marvelous dick forever." While she left Jack was still staring at his cock, crying, almost throwing up with disgust. The men kept comming to Jack's room and Jack had to overcome his repulsion in order to get their sperm. His life was now a constant fight against cock disgust in order to try to stop the cum craving. The cum craving was so intense, it didn't matter how repulsive their cock were. A few months later, it was time again for delivery. This time, he got four boys. This cycle got on and on for years making his life absolutely miserable. When he finally reach menopausis at the age of 51, he had delivered over 75 children (all boys) and was still very disgusted by men's cocks. Brenda came back to Jack: "O.K. my dear, this woman's body is useless as you stopped ovulating. I will now transform you back to your man self. You know I love giving you injections that contains little "surprises" and this one will not make exception to the rule." She injected Jack into his butt. "You're getting old my poor Jack and the last few years have been tough on you, so I decided that you deserve a break. A very special break in fact. You won't feel any cum craving,you won't have to suck men or being buttfuck by them from now on. While you become a man again, your balls and cock will grow back but not as huge as they were before your transformation. Your big balls will be able to make you ejaculate at all time and you'll enjoy playing with your cock . You won't feel anymore repulsion to cocks, cocks will now turn you on indeed. You'll stare at them as much as you can humanly do and they will make you rock hard. Your sperm will now contain a substance which can induce very strong cum craving but specifically to your cum only. Other man's cum won't bring any satisfaction and will not diminish the craving. This addiction is permanent and nothing can stop it. Your sperm will also make the man that absorb it an addict of buttfucking. He will want to have a big cock ejaculating in his ass at all time. This effect is not specific to your cum and any man's cum will do for the buttfuck urge he will experiment. As you will not have any urge, or cum craving, you're probably asking yourself why I make you produce these addicting substances and mix them with your cum. The answer is easy: I will make you meet your boys. You know some of them are grown up now and would be very anxious to meet you. They are very normal heterosexual boys with a promising future. They are your exact copy but younger of course. I will organise a little family reunion that they will remember. All your children that are over 14 will be brought here. I think there are 32 of them at the moment.