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Interview with R
by Slim n' Dusty (slimndusty@yahoo.co.uk)

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'R' is a woman who has always been fascinated by death 
and corpses. After suffering sexual harassment from 
older boys at the age of 7, she was ostracized by her 
own school and community, which failed to address the 
traumatic experience. Her successes in both academic 
studies and in sport, made her peers jealous, whilst her 
non-conformism led to further isolation. (MF, nc, mast, 
nec)

***

'R' is a woman who has always been fascinated by death 
and corpses. After suffering sexual harassment from 
older boys at the age of 7, she was ostracized by her 
own school and community, which failed to address the 
traumatic experience. Her successes in both academic 
studies and in sport, made her peers jealous, whilst her 
non-conformism led to further isolation. 

As a teenager, following a bad experience with a 
psychiatrist, her desire to understand her own sexuality 
led her to collect as much information as she could on 
psychology, sexual deviances and necrophilia. Sexual 
fulfillment followed with her first orgasm, not from 
being with a man, but with a human bone. 'R' offers a 
rare glimpse into the private world of the female 
necrophile, from touching a corpse to choosing her 
favourite human bone for masturbation. 

Far from fitting a psychiatric stereotype of a 
withdrawn, shy, recluse - who cannot relate to the world 
around her, 'R's enjoyment in talking to various people, 
together with a sociable personality clearly 
demonstrates a warmth that is different from this.


Q.  Firstly, I'd like to start with your background - 
relationship with parents, childhood, puberty, 
adulthood, etc.?

A.  My parents really supported me and believed in me 
and gave me a belief in my own strength. I had a very 
good relationship with my father who taught me a lot. My 
mother suffers from mental and physical illness, so it 
was problematic because she tried to control me and was 
paranoid, but I would say that it was still a good 
relationship if you add everything up. 

My childhood and puberty had two faces. On one hand I 
was talented, creative, good at school and at sports, 
etc. On the other hand I was the outsider in all groups, 
especially my class, and I had to learn how to live 
against a whole group environment that tried to put me 
down. The other pupils didn`t like me. The weird thing 
is that although they hated me, I heard from others that 
they somehow admired me too. 

I was very ambitious, interested in all subjects, and I 
could get good results without much effort. So jealousy 
might have been one reason, and the fact that I didn`t 
imitate them, e.g. I didn`t wear labels and wasn`t 
interested in being girlish. I was younger than the 
others, which means I was equal with learning and 
height, but couldn`t compete in maturity, I was naive 
and felt "left out" of puberty a bit. I picked children 
as friends that were younger than me or outsiders or 
weak, because they appreciated my companionship. 

During early adulthood, I perfected ways to transfer 
problems into creative energy, and there was the break 
from the role-model-life to the outlaw-life. This break 
started from about the age of 24 until now. I didn`t 
find a job after finishing my studies, I stopped sports 
and gained weight. I lost some of my goals and interests 
(e.g. drawing), and I became involved in ideas and a 
struggle for a better society. This had nothing to do 
with my necrophile fantasies, I simply felt betrayed by 
society because I had wasted so much time for nothing.
 
My problems were social (with other children and 
juveniles, and I suffered because my parents quarreled) 
and sexual. Whenever I felt depressed by a problem, I 
analyzed it and found ways to work through it in a 
productive way - I made movies with friends, I drew many 
pictures, wrote song lyrics, roleplayed (invented games 
for younger children) etc. I would even invent one game 
with a dice and cards and photo comics for my parents 
out of our life. Later, I turned my social frustration 
into political flyers and ideas for action. 

My sexual problem is also a strong drive that keeps me 
going. Even though I`m lazy sometimes, I can never just 
sit and relax. I have to read a book. I cannot stay 
still without a challenge or task for too long, because 
that would be too risky.


Q.  What do you mean by 'risky'? Do you mean that it 
would make you misbehave in some way?

A.  By risky I mean that I`d get all worked up about my 
fantasies and maybe dig up a corpse again. I can only 
control my desire through distractions and other tasks.



Q.  So, when did your interest in necro start? How old 
were you? Describe your feelings and what may have 
triggered them (that is personal experiences, film, 
etc.).

A.  I have always been fascinated by death and by 
corpses. As a child I was hyperactive, but could spend 
hours playing with old flowers on the cemetery without 
being bored, and I sensed the atmosphere was like in a 
huge garden from an old faerie-tale. 

When 7 years old, I was sexually harassed by older boys 
and I mention this to you now because I`m not sure 
whether it might have had an influence on my sexuality. 
The boys were 13 and were together with my classmate who 
was the brother of one of them. I found out years later 
that my father had gone to the police and the youth care 
at the time, but they didn`t do anything because German 
law only punishes juveniles over 14. The boys forced me 
to be touched by them, but didn`t penetrate me. They 
told me not to tell my parents, but I told my father. 

I remained friends with the classmate who witnessed the 
harassment because he felt uneasy during the event and 
didn`t participate. He must have told other pupils 
because during the next few days, pupils (especially the 
girls) made fun of me - as if it was my fault. I felt 
totally ashamed and hated myself for having felt so 
cowardly. Neither my parents nor the teachers reacted in 
any way (by either talking to me or punishing the boys 
and telling the pupils to stop picking on me).

That`s how I learned that justice is something you have 
to fight for on your own, because the event itself was 
not half as disturbing as the reactions of the 
environment. The weird thing is that years later, I 
talked to one of the boys and he saw it as something 
harmless, like just a boy`s antics.


Q.  Why did you feel 'cowardly' after the sexual 
harassment?

A.  I didn`t feel cowardly after the harassment, but I 
was a coward because I didn`t refuse to be touched. I 
hated myself for that. What could have happened more 
than being beaten up? It would have been better to face 
their violence and fight and not behave like a sheep in 
the slaughterhouse, I was just too afraid because they 
were both 13 and I was only 7.

Later on, at the age of 9, I wanted to visit a 
"Leichenschauhaus" because I believed it was a museum 
and was totally sad and depressed for weeks when my 
father explained me that it wasn`t possible. The term 
"Leichenschauhaus" comes from the past when unknown dead 
people were laid out in a hall and anyone could look at 
them in order to see if he knew them. Nowadays the 
public cannot visit and watch them, but the term has 
stayed. It`s just a morgue. The word "schau" is a 
mixture of "show" and "watch" that`s why I mistook it 
for a museum.

As I grew older, I fell in love with horror movies, 
zombies, and dark Metal/Gothic music. My first sexual 
experiences with boys were frustrating because I didn`t 
feel much, but my female friends told me I had not met a 
"good one" yet. So I first thought it was not my fault. 
I consumed death-related music / movies and noticed that 
I didn`t like torture, sadism, or murder, but corpses. 

When I was 16, I saw the movie "Nekromantik" and was 
very depressed. I think what depressed me about the 
movie was that necrophilia seemed unchangeable. At 
first, I thought that I simply felt compassion for the 
main character, but now I believe that I was depressed 
because, subconsciously, I too knew that I was a 
necrophile and, just like the main character, I couldn`t 
escape it. But it still took me several months to 
realize that I wanted a corpse.


Q.  Did you get any counselling?

A.  I went to a psychiatrist, which ended up a bad 
experience for me. The psychiatrist was a 
recommendation, and I went there believing that he could 
help me. He talked to me for only half an hour and his 
questions were superficial and he behaved in an arrogant 
way. After that, he asked me why I hadn`t come to the 
idea to take medication for it. I replied that 
medication would only treat the symptoms and that I 
didn`t like taking pills against every problem. And I 
asked him how he would know if I`m a necrophile only 
after talking for half an hour to me (I mean, I could 
have told him a story to gain attention like many 
juveniles do). 

He told me not to question his knowledge (in that 
arrogant way where: "I`m the doctor and my diagnosis is 
always right") and that he wanted to keep me in 
'stationary treatment'. I told him that I didn`t like 
his behaviour and left. And then this bastard called my 
parents! He told them to deliver me to him, and even 
wanted to make my father cancel a holiday that had been 
planned a long time. 

And here is one reason why I love my parents: My father 
told him not to harrass him or me anymore in any way! I 
felt totally shocked because I had gone there, trusting, 
and it is not easy to talk about this to a stranger. And 
I felt abused, he had told my parents behind my back, 
and he had tried to treat me as a child, not respecting 
my personality at all. I hate deceit, and I felt 
betrayed. Afterwards the feeling that had already risen 
by my other experiences with people got stronger: while 
others tried to put me down, I felt superior.

After seeing this psychiatrist, I collected information 
about psychology, sexual deviances and necrophilia. I 
gathered as much information about the subject I could 
get and tried to analyze myself, from the normal 
literature and from forums on the internet. I met other 
necrophiles through this searching.

I often went to the cemetery at night, and sometimes I 
got human bones. At 17 I had my first orgasm not with a 
man, but with a bone. I found several bones and a skull, 
and I got another skull from a friend, too. It`s not 
difficult in big towns. I took them home and 'cooked 
them' because that was recommended to me by my friend.


Q.  Why did you 'cook' them?

I cooked the bones because it sterilizes them.

I liked the skull and the femur most and took them to 
bed often. Sometimes I went back to the cemetery with 
bones, too, and lay in an open grave or on a fresh grave 
to masturbate. Usually I just kissed, hugged and petted 
myself with the bones, and would rub myself until 
orgasm. Afterwards I felt satisfied but sometimes also 
very sad because I thought it would be better to be 
sexually normal and not so lonely.

When I was 18, I dug up a corpse with a friend. The 
corpse was of an old man who had been buried that same 
day, and it was well-preserved. I touched it because I 
wanted to know how I would feel - whether I would be 
shocked or aroused - whether my desire was true or just 
a figment. I was, like, in a trance. I lost my self-
control. I just acted without thinking about my feelings 
or what I would do next. I was just touching and 
caressing it, and pinching, because it was so amazing 
that it didn`t react. It sounds stupid but I needed to 
pinch it to make sure it was dead and that it didn`t 
scream or move, and that was totally overwhelming for 
me. 

My friend had helped me to make a hole in the coffin, 
but after a while he pretended it smelled and left the 
open grave we were in. After I touched the corpse for 
the first time, I then told him to do it too, but he 
said "no thanks" and asked whether he could leave again. 
I told him that I hadn`t spent an hour to open a coffin 
in order to leave after a second, but promised to leave 
after a minute - which turned out to be longer (but I 
had lost my sense of time, so I cannot say how long it 
was). He sat on the edge of the grave and told me that 
he felt nauseous. He told me several times to leave and 
that the police would catch us. When I asked him for a 
knife, he was shocked and pulled me out and forced me to 
leave. He took me away after about half an hour. I was 
still on a "high" so I didn`t discuss it. He was paler 
than a corpse afterwards. I bet he didn`t enter a 
cemetery for years after that. 

Before that night, he said he'd loved me, but after this 
he stopped trying to have sex with me. He didn`t even 
touch me.


Q.  What would you have done if your friend gave you his 
knife?

A.  I don`t know. I know myself very well, but my 
sexuality always amazes me. I suffered a lot from my 
passion, but over the years I learned to handle it. I`ve 
made endless lists of "advantages" of necrophilia and 
what makes a corpse desirable, but now I believe that 
was only rationalizing. I`m still not sure if it`s 
determined or due to experiences.


Q.  You are now a mother and are settled in the routine 
of raising children. This indicates to me that you are 
self-disciplined and that you have managed to distance 
yourself from your past by putting the needs of your 
children first. Now that you are in this situation, do 
you find it hard to control your desires for dead bodies 
now that you have a family of your own? Do you still 
keep mementoes of those times and collect bones to play 
with? Does your husband understand this desire, if you 
still have it?

A.  I was as self-disciplined as I am now, but in other 
ways (sports, studies). I put the needs of my children 
first which includes to raise them as normal, but I 
don`t distance myself from my past. I consider my 
"crimes" pretty minor, because I hurt nobody. Whereas 
most people have hurt others in so many ways. 

I'm used to controlling my actions, as I often need to 
tolerate frustration in my life. My boyfriend made me 
get rid of the bones, which I sometimes regret. But 
there would always be an easy way to get some other 
bones if life gets more frustrating. 

As long as nobody invents a true therapy, I will keep 
that desire until I die myself. So the most frustrating 
thing is that I`ll never have a sexually satisfying 
relationship with my partner because it creates an 
invisible wall.

I found the better known reasons for necrophilia - that 
a corpse cannot reject or hurt me in any way and doesn`t 
expect anything from me or put me under pressure and 
cannot disappoint me - in brief, it doesn`t have all the 
negative aspects that normal men have - and these are 
important for me. 

Another aspect, not so important, but worth a mention is 
that it`s something forbidden, a taboo, which others are 
afraid of/rejected by, so it gives an extra-kick and a 
weird feeling of being superior.

I have a very strong, nostalgic longing for something 
undefinable by words, and corpses or bones strike that 
chord in me. It`s a feeling of both happiness and 
sadness at the same time. A normal person might feel the 
same if remembering a special moment or a favorite song.

It might be possible that reaction formation has 
contributed to my necrophilia, because I hate and cannot 
deal with death, and I`m always fighting against 
nihilism and despair in myself. I`m also longing for a 
thing that has no accurate translation in English. It`s 
"Geborgenheit". The translation terms security etc. all 
don`t comprise the full emotional meaning, because it 
has a lot to do with "being home where you belong to".

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This story was written as an adult fantasy. The author
does not condone the described behavior in real life.

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