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Subject: {ASSM/ASS} New to the group? Read me: the TYSK file!
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Things You Should Know
(A help file for and related groups)

Version 3.0

New this issue
This time I'm did a major rewrite.

Hello, and welcome to the wonderful worlds of*.  If 
you're wondering what that asterisk means, you're in the right place, 
and this file is meant for you.  If you've already read this file or 
are an accomplished net-poster, you probably don't need to read it, 
but it would make me feel needed if you would read it anyway.

My name is Seurat, and this is the Things You Should Know 
message (TYSK, for short).  This message was originally conceived
and developed by Kim (with the help of others), and is now maintained
by myself.  Please direct all comment, additions, etc to: 

The purpose of this file is to give the new reader/poster on*
an idea of just what goes on around here.  It is a basic primer, and more
depth files will be discussed later.

I will only be posting this to ASSM. It will be up to Eli to crosspost
where he will.

Thanks for reading.


December 1 1998


People, places, and things
Newsgroups Available
How and what to post
Story Codes
Other Resources



This is a "help you get started" post, for both readers and 
writers, and covers several of the things you may have been puzzled 
about, were confused on how to do, or were just unaware of. I hope you 
find it of use.

First, it should be understood that any group on usenet is not a 
central location. It is not a bulletin board as such. There is no 
central authority, and nobody to complain to, other than your own ISP 
(Internet Service Provider), who either does or doesn't carry a 
particular group. These newsgroups are held by your ISP, but are 
filled by being linked to thousands of other newservers around the 
world. They are constantly passing posts to each other to update 
themselves and keep the groups as up to date as possible. This is how 
posts propagate around the usenet system, jumping from server to 
server, ISP to ISP.

The length of time a particular story stays on a group, before being 
removed, varies between ISPs, and is dependent on such things as 
their local disk space, how many posts they receive and their general 
"time held" policies. So please don't write to the ASSM moderator 
asking him not to remove your stories, or post to the newsgroups 
about it. Newsserver administrators probably don't read the groups, 
and certainly won't take instructions or requests from them.

This is not, by any means, directions on how to write a story or tips 
on grammar or a guide on how to deal with your ISP. 

Finally, remember this is a guide to the* worlds, and 
is not gospel or chartered law. 

Just read it and make your own judgment on its content and intention. 


People, places, and things

Be aware (not beware) of the people on the net!  Many people do not 
use their real name, usually taking a psuedonym which they feel is 
a bit more descriptive to some aspect of themselves.  Since they 
can be whatever people want them to be, some strange ones have come 
up.  Read any newsgroup for a while, and you will note the 
personality behind a poster.  Read stories by a certain author for 
a while, and you will come to recognize styles and themes.  This 
can help you decide if a story is worth reading or not, i.e. 'I've 
always liked Deidre's, I wonder if anybody else writes like she did?'  

Some of the people mentioned in this file go by such names 
as 'Eli the Bearded' and 'Celeste'.  Their reasons for these names 
are their own, and usually is not a point to argue about.  However,
it is considered bad taste to use a name already in use.  To 
intentionally use anothers name is one of the few taboos on the internet. 

Newsgroups Available (or 'Toto, I don't think we're in Kansas anymore')
Newsgroups are collections of posts usually with a common theme.  If 
you want to argue the merits of James Kirk as commander of the 
Enterprise on the old TV show 'Star Trek', there are newsgroups 
specifically designed about that subject.  If you want to read about 
James Kirk having sex on the Enterprise, well then, you've come to the 
right place.  The newsgroups (yes, there are more than
are all about writing and reading about sex.  It can be suggestive, 
erotic, or hardcore; it can titilate your senses or induce masturbation;
make you laugh, cry, or seek out your significant other for a quickie.  It
can tempt you to write your own stories, or it can disgust you.  If it 
deals with sex and is a story, you'll find it here sooner or later.
There are few different types of newsgroup in the 
(ASS) hierarchy.

The main story group is:   -- (contains all types of stories)

with the more specialist groups:   -- (contains stories about bondage, 
					domination, sadism, and masochism)   -- (wife infidelity stories)   -- (same sex sex stories)   -- (straight sex stories)   -- (transgendered/transvestite/and transexual
stories)  -- (incestual stories)

Note: some of these groups may not be carried by your ISP, and your ISP 
may carry others not on this list. If you want access to them you'll 
have to ask your ISP to add them to their lists.

None of the above groups are moderated. In other words, anyone is 
free to post what they like to these groups and nobody can stop them. 
Because of this they come under constant attack of spammers (people 
or organizations that use newsgroups to promote commercial services 
by posting copious amounts of advertising). To combat this invasion there 
is also a story group that is moderated, called:   -- (contains all types of stories, no

Moderation of a newsgroup means a person, presently Eli the Bearded, 
has to approve the posting before it is allowed to appear. He generally 
doesn't censor on content of the stories, just makes sure that spam 
doesn't get through. Though I do believe he will not allow material 
that will breach certain copyrights. You can either post to ASSM in the 
same way you post to any of the groups, or you can mail the story 
directly to Eli at:

There is also another moderated group called:   -- (same sex sex, no spam)

The moderator is Mykkhal. Stories for ASSGM can also be submitted 
directly to:

Another way to combat spam is to use newsreader software that has a 
filtering system that can be programmed to eliminate the worst 
offenders. It is beyond the scope of this post to attempt to 
explain such things because they are beyond my range. I 
suffer like most others and just ignore the spam.

There is also a discussion group called:   -- (discussion about everything)

ASSD is for the discussion of writing about sex, and in general terms 
is for readers and authors to talk about stories, and what you liked 
or didn't like about stories that have been posted to the other story 
groups etc. Often the threads (related posts on one topic) 
will be of a more general nature, usually relating to sex in some 
fashion. It is NOT a place to post stories. As this group is not 
moderated, a convention has been established to insert {ASSD} in the 
subject line, so that posts can be easily differentiated from the 
spam. Some people use the same convention for posting to the other 
groups, though it is less common; albeit a sensible idea.

There is also a group called:

        alt.stories.erotic   -- (stories about sex)

It was named this in an attempt to avoid being flooded by spammers because
it was believed that the removal of the word 'sex' would cause the group 
to avoid unwanted attention.So called, in an attempt to avoid spam, on the
theory that spammers. Unfortunately this is no longer true, and this group
gets its share of spam too.


How and what to post to ASS and the other groups
First: preparation of your story.

It has been established that only plain ASCII text should be used to 
post to any of the groups. This means that the following are all 
unacceptable: zip files (compressed), native word processor files 
(such as Word, Word Perfect, etc), or any attachment file such as 
graphics files like GIF of JPEG, or HTML (web pages).

Believe it or not, there is a group set up for such posts called:   -- (everything)

It does allow the posting of all of the above, so if you wish to post 
such things, then that is the only acceptable group to do it to.

If you write a story in a word processor, but intend to post it to 
any of the non-binary groups, then it must be converted to plain text  
and pasted, or loaded, into your newsreader/emailing software before 

Due to the varied reading software, it is also considered polite to 
add carriage returns at the end of each line. Failure to do this will 
result in one long line on many readers' screens. Lines should be 
kept to no more than about 75 characters in length. 72 is a 
reasonable length to aim for.

Most word processors allow you to output a file in plain text with 
line feeds. It may be a good idea to choose a non-proportional font 
before you do this, to ensure a more uniform line length.

If your story is very long (over 100k), it is a good idea to split 
it into sections, with an appropriate numbering system in the 
subject line to indicate the sequence, such as 1/3, 2/3, 3/3. Many 
authors will spilt at much smaller sizes (say 30k), due to 
limitations with their software or their ISP's requirements. If 
possible the parts should be posted in sequence too. This will mean 
they will likely arrive at the news servers in sequence and can then 
be downloaded by the reader in one file, if they have the software to 
do that.

Second:Subject lines

It has become common convention to give your story a title and to 
mention that title as the subject of your post.  Due to the proliferation 
of spammers, it helps to add 'Story:' or 'New story:' at the beginning.  
It is also nice if you put your psuedonym in brackets at the beginning, 
identifying the author and allowing the post to be listed alphabetically 
with other posts.  This makes it easier to find and will increase your 

example: {Seurat} New story:Muse (MF)

The letters on the end identify the story as Male-Female sex between 
consenting adults.  More on that later.

If you post a story to then Eli will also 
cross-post it to automatically. He also sets any 
followups to go to

If you intend to post a followup to thank an author, having hit the 
reply button to say "Hey, I liked that story, thanks", take the 
trouble to edit out the story before you post it. It is not necessary 
to post the entire story to ASSD, and would not be welcome there 
anyway. In fact a simple "I like it" would be better posted 
to the author directly, if that's possible. A post on why you thought 
the author did or didn't succeed would be very welcome in ASSD.

One thing you should be aware of is that if you post with your own 
normal email address you will be leaving yourself open to junk mail. 
To combat this you can either alter you real address, obtain a
mailbox such as found at Hotmail, or obtain for yourself an anonymous 
email account. Full explanations of any of these tactics is beyond 
the scope of this post.


Story Codes

There are also established story codes that should be used in the 
subject line of a story. There is a separate FAQ (frequently asked 
question) file maintained and posted by Uther Pendragon on a regular 
basis to ASS and ASSD, both for readers and authors.

The FAQ for writers can be obtained at:

And the FAQ for readers is at:

The necessity of using codes has been debated a lot on ASSD, so it is 
up to you as a poster to decide if they are useful or not. Their main 
aim is to alert the reader to the content of the story, so that they 
may make an informed choice as to what to pay for, in terms of 
download time which may well be costing them money.  Many readers do 
not download stories without codes unless they recognize the author 
and appreciate his/her work.



Anyone is free to write a review of any story and post it to any 
group. However, the best place to post it is probably ASSD. Some 
authors do not wish their work to be reviewed, and so state that in 
the header or introduction of their stories. Failure to state that 
means they are fair game.

Two people have managed to establish themselves as well-known 
reviewers, simply by being regular posters of reviews. They are 
Celeste and Lady Cyrrh. Neither of them should be considered in any 
official light. They are simply self-appointed reviewers and hold no 
more sway than anyone else. Should you wish to set yourself up as a 
reviewer then just do it. Becoming accepted as "worth reading" is 
only a matter of perseverance, nothing more. Many folks have tried, 
but only these two have so far succeeded.

Celeste has been doing it for several years and has written over two 
thousand reviews. An amazing achievement by any standards. It was she 
who developed the "BlowJob Principle." This is the idea that if you 
wish for authors to keep writing the stories you like to read, then 
you might like to write and tell them so, with a few words of 
encouragement from time to time. It would probably also be nice for 
the authors to acknowledge the support with a reciprocal thank you 
note. Some authors will be very happy to enter into a chain of 
correspondence with a reader, others won't have the time or 
inclination. You'll just have to try it and see what develops.

Celeste has also instigated a system of guest reviews, and they 
appear alongside her own reviews under the heading of "Celestial 
Reviews."  Celeste herself is no longer involved in the writing of the 
Celestial reviews as of review number 310; the co-editoring of reviews 
has fallen to BitBard and Miss Behavin'.  I wish them all the luck in 
the world.  Reading reviews will often keep you from reading stories 
you wouldn't have like and will usually clue you into a few you may 
have missed.

Lady Cyrrh has been doing reviews for about a year. She does all her 
own, though I believe she has help with some of the reviews that are 
to be found on her own website at 
should you want to read her past reviews. She tends to review stories 
in the more esoteric genres, but both she and Celeste have been known 
to stray into each other's territories. She has also suggested 
that you may want to check out the following groups for the occasional 
story you might find there, in amongst the earnest conversation.

        soc.sexuality.spanking   -- (spanking)
        soc.subculture.bondage-bdsm   -- (BDSM)
	soc.subculture.bondage-bdsm.femdom  --(BDSM with the female always in

Many consider it an honor, and mark of success, if their stories rate 
an A+ from Lady Cyrrh, or a triple ten from Celeste. Many others 
think it a waste of time and effort, and will have nothing to do with 
them. Like most things in usenet, it's for you, the reader, to decide 
for yourself on such matters. If you feel an urge to voice your 
opinion on such things, then ASSD is the place to do so. Remember,
there is no right or wrong, only individual opinion.

Should you want to try your hand at writing a review you might like to 
read Kim's 'self-opinionated' guidelines on how to do that too. You can 
find them at:


Other Resources

The new (and much improved) Alt Sex Stories FAQ is being maintained by 
Apuleius, and if you can't find it on the newsgroups, it can be 
located in "Other Resources"

The newest version of the free stories FAQ (frequently asked questions)
curently maintained by, has found its way back on to 
the newsgroup, and is posted twice per month.  It and can be 
found at: 

One of the most amazing pieces of scholarly endeavor is the work of 
Ole Joe. He has created nothing less than an encyclopedia of the sex 
story world, which he has called " - A Subculture." It 
can be found at:
His lates version is #15, and well worth a perusal.

Eli the Bearded keeps an archive of all the stories that pass through 
ASSM. It can found at:

Stories to ASSM can be mailed to: 

Mykkhal keeps an archive of all the stories that pass through
ASSGM. It can be found at: 

Stories to ASSGM can be mailed to:

Most posts that go to any of the ASS* groups get archived at DejaNews. 
It can be found at: 
Don't forget to set the archive to "adult."

An FTP archive of some stories from ASS also exists. It can be found at:

One of the old ASS FAQs (there have been more than one) can be found at:

The Story Codes FAQ for writers can be obtained at:

And the Story Codes FAQ for readers is at:

Celeste's review archive can be found at:

Lady Cyrrh's archive can be found at:

Mailbox accounts can be found at:

A large collection of information about all things sexual is held at

To understand the abbreviations, acronyms, emoticons and the like, often
used in stories and posts to the newsgroups try:


The End

Kim's original thanks went to Uther Pendragon, Eli the Bearded, BitBard, 
Greybeard, Maff, Steven S Davis, Apuleius of Madaura, Lady Sara, See-El, 
Lady Cyrrh, Watcher, MC Woodsmoke and Felix Lance Falkon for comments
or help with the creation of this post, as well as all the regular 
contributors to ASSD who inspired her to do it.  My additions include 
Anne Thorpe, Tigger, sfmaster, and a few unmentionables who, through 
comments not always related directly to this file, have kept up my

This new and slightly improved version of "Things You Should Know" was 
written by Kim and edited with comments by Seurat.  While Kim no longer
has a known e-mail account, you can contact Seurat at:

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